201 comments

• Comment Link Sunday, 09 June 2013 17:32 posted by Paul Leduac

  But we do know how we came into being, and it wasn't from the rib bone of a human prototype. The folks arguing against this motion assume that the lack of a scientific explanation for the origin of the Big Bang constitutes evidence for their religious explanation, and in so doing are undermining everything they've said in previous discussions on religion. Isn't one of the oldest arguments FOR religion that lack of evidence does not constitute evidence of lack? They have claimed that lack of scientific evidence for God's existence does not mean God doesn't exist. Yet that's the logic they're using in reverse now with the Big Bang. They're saying that lack of evidence for a scientific explanation means there is no scientific explanation, which in turn must mean there's a God. Well they can't have it both ways. If that logic holds true, then science has refuted God a thousand times over. Just because they have found ONE scientific question our scientists haven't found the answer for yet doesn't mean there is not a scientific explanation. See, we already have plenty of evidence that science exists. We don't need to prove that science caused the Big Bang. It's self-evident.

• Comment Link Friday, 07 June 2013 15:15 posted by Garrick Little

  This debate, (and the comments on it), present opinions that have little authority except that claimed by the author of the opinion. I don't object to the challenge to the authority of Scripture and by extension Christianity however for the most part the challenge is based on nothing more than opinion. I doubt that those taking the Darwinist position could present even a minimal grasp of the concepts that describe the Christian world view.
  So what does Lawrence Krauss as director of the Origins Project have to offer us? A highly speculative description of the origin of the universe which attempts to explain how the universe as we know it came into existence. Is there one piece of scientific information, (fact), that he can present that provides irrefutable evidence to support the case for the spontaneous formation of the universe? The logic goes like this. We live in a material world. It had to come into existence somehow so we formulate some explanation no matter how unlikely and with no possibility of being tested and describe it as a working model. Who can challenge this? More to the point what authority is presented other than that of the author?
  Darwinism, in fact can offer us little to address the question of the origin of life itself or answer the question of how it is possible to live in a universe that apparently was more ordered at one time and is now less ordered and continuing to be less ordered with every passing second. These issues ultimately demonstrate the limits of the scientific method to process Truth! This is not due to a lack of information ultimately-rather an unwillingness to pursue the implications of the evidence that has been uncovered. The Darwinist approach is to conclude the outcome of the debate before the substance of the debate is engaged.

• Comment Link Thursday, 06 June 2013 17:36 posted by James

  Really you guys just need to see a person's blind eyes get opened when you pray for them, or deaf ears get open or a lame person walk when you share about the power of Jesus and pray for them. It's not "logical", its not "scientific" and it doesn't fit into any models. We'll never know the full extent of what there is to know about the universe. So how in the world can we say God doesn't exist or science refutes Him when we can barely figure out how we came to being, or the numerous other mysteries scientists give themselves too.

• Comment Link Thursday, 06 June 2013 09:00 posted by Pat Ross

  In view of scientific knowledge of evolution, humans have greater responsibility to refute the religions that divide and create ideology based violence and persecution, justified by religious doctrine. It produces nothing but self justified genocide and warring peoples...in the name of God...the ultimate insult to the Universe, and to mankind.
  
  Ending these foolish superstitions and mysticism is the kindest act that humans can do for themselves in pursuit of a liberty all should have, free from the religious prisons of the mind built over thousands of years without science. We are a global village that needs to act like it.

• Comment Link Monday, 03 June 2013 16:00 posted by Thomas Olds

  By Darwin's own admission "irreducible complexity" disproves his theory. Think ribosomes, flagella etc. -- Darwinism is more akin to a religion than any type of scientific theory. Science can neither prove nor disprove it. The same can be said for intelligent design.
  
  However, when you kick astronomy into the equation, our solar system, the function of the moon, elipitcal orbits versus circular, the unique attributes of the sun the idea of chance and other earths out there just waiting to be found seems the expectation of a fool.
  
  Was disappointed with the debate. The audience reflected a Darwinist convention with no appreciation whatsoever of what science of the last 50 years has added to the arguments for or against intelligent design.

• Comment Link Sunday, 02 June 2013 20:26 posted by Pat

  Religion, more than likely, was created to answer what mankind has always been unable to answer because he had not the technology or knowledge, and training, to discover the answers when religion was used as the substitute for the then unknowable.
  
  The real question is whether humans are smart enough not to ruin the plant, destroy it, or make themselves extinct from their pick-and-choose knowledge used for their own self interest.

• Comment Link Friday, 24 May 2013 13:14 posted by Ron Coleman

  Quite a few apparently confused cleverness with wisdom when casting their votes.

• Comment Link Thursday, 23 May 2013 10:51 posted by H H Markley

  I by accident watched this debate late last night. This was a non-debate because the opponents of "does science refute God" were representative of a premodern 19th century theology. The proponents were versed in modern quantum physics. The opponents had no familiarity with modern 20th Century theology and its existential approach to religion. I doubt that the producers of this show sought good thinking theologians. They ohly wished to create a specious debate. The great 20th Century theologians are of course dead: Paul Tillich, the Niebuhr brothers, Bultman, and Bonhoeffer. A few of their adherants are living - Marcus Borg, a few seminary professors, Rob Bell and some others like myself. Ciao,

• Comment Link Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:56 posted by Michael

  Man made god

• Comment Link Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:40 posted by john32

  A very big deception of the devil is to get you to debate God, Christianity and other religions. This is one of the surest ways to ensure, that you will never experience real salvation and eternal life, and all the wonderful things God has predestined for you.
  
  Let us just suppose (for those who do not have faith), that even if you argue and debate, and finally, even if it is a long shot, and you finally are logically convinced (by the way, there are many books,eg by thomas equinas that logically prove the christian faith) that there is a God, and that He is the christian God. Does it mean you are going to heaven, just because you are mentally or intellectually convinced that Jesus is God??????
  
  Not at all. Not unless you have a spiritual experience called being born again.A logical belief in Christianity will prevent you from experiencing the Real Deal, that is a Spiritual Salvation in Christ in the following ways:
  
  The devil was once a mighty archangel, and presently with billions of demons, evil spirits, unclean spirits, etc with a far superior intelligence than humans.Each human being is assigned to tens, if not hundreds of evil spirits and demon hordes, that would love for you to deny their existence. For if you deny their existence, then surely you will deny God's existence. It is extremely easy, 1,2,3 steps for Satan to deceive humans in more than a thousand ways.
  
  Don't even think you can compete with satan intellectually. However, he has no control over your heart, and what you choose to believe.And that is the loophole, which God has opened up for you. The faith route is the only way you can bypass Satan,and his cronies who guard the intellectual gates of the human mind.
  
  When you get in to the logic debate about God, few important things to consider in SPIRITUAL WORLD which is what actually matters:
  
  1) You could be tempted to fall into the dungeon of SPIRITUAL PRIDE, as you are tricked into judging Almighty God, which is a fool's folly.Spiritual pride was the reason, for satan's downfall. Also for man's downfall, in garden of eden, as eve sucumbed to the temptation about being as knowledgeable as God.
  
  This could also result in the person who is logically convinced that Jesus is God, as an intellectual knowledge of the truth, will become a STUMBLING BLOCK for a real SPIRITUAL SALVATION experience.
  
  2) It could also lead to DECEPTION as the person, cannot find God in the intellectual domain, but only in the Spiritual domain. God's thoughts are far higher than yours, mine and the devil's, so you have to trust Him at His word. As it is written in the bible:
  Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.
  
  God is spirit, only a spiritual born again experience can save the person, and the first thing to do is to humble ourselves. Second, we need deliverance from demonic spirits of unbelief that hold people as captives. This can be done if the person humbles himself/herself and receives Jesus Christ into the heart. Deliverance can be done even online, and specific prayers can set the captives free.
  
  I speak from experience. Not here to argue with anyone.
  
  Simple challenge for those who are sincere: Ask God to open your eyes, and to reveal Himself to you.Ask in JESUS name.Simple. Try it. IT WORKS